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Day 11 of 100 Days to Thanksgiving 253/244/195 Got on the scales just now and saw that I’ve lost 9 pounds in the last 11 days. Of course a lot of this has been water, I’m sure, but it is fun to see the pounds go off, feel my belt looser, and also to know that this has a beneficial impact on blood pressure, etc. Last evening made it up my little hill with a 25 pound pack on just before sunset, at about 7:55. In driving down the hill, we stopped to see the last edge of the sun fall behind the hills to the west at 7:28:30. (I think a newspaper weather report two days ago said that the sun will now set before 8 p.m. and soon the nights will be longer than the days.) I had about 800 calories yesterday, all at dinner – mostly rice and some curry with chicken. Tasted fine. I drank a lot of water and feel full. The summit of Middle Sisters in Central Oregon beckons and I’m practicing to go up it in several weeks. It has a 10,000 foot summit. Last summer I went up South Sisters. Weighed considerably less than I do now. But slowly I plodded my way to the top of that summit, also about 10,000 feet. Great, great outing – quite arduous for me. Very, very nice people there: "You can’t turn back! You’re almost there!" and they were right. Although I sure slowed down from time to time. We all go at our own pace and it sure doesn’t pay to burn out at the pace set by someone else. Encouragement sure helps people accomplish difficult things. I’ve also lately taken to hiking with a radio and/or cassette tapes to distract myself from the plodding. When I used to run, I used to use the same approach. I hope everyone has a great day and huge success in the future! Yours, Caleb

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Day 11 of 100 Days to Thanksgiving 253/244/195

The climb of Middle Sister sounds like great fun. Do you do these as backpacking trips or as dayhikes? Enjoy the butterflies! Matthew

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My wife and I have hiked every year for the past 4 years to a lake in central Oregon with friends. Part of a yearly ritual and it was great this year too, along with our daughter and her boyfriend. 6 years ago I would have been totally unable to have done that. (I think that more of my weight now is strength derived from regular walks, etc.) By the way, as you know "Matthew" means "gift of Yahweh" and "Caleb" means "dog" (as I tell clients). [Also it means "courageous" but that's not as ice-breaking to stressed out clients.] Well, I’m out the door with my son now at 10:50 pm on Friday and he will volunteer at the Mt. Hood to Coast relay (in which our daughter and thousands of others are running) until about 4 in the morning. (I’ll be sleeping in the car for a while but I’ll be driving too and from.) Yours, Caleb

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Matthew — Thanks for your inquiry — These are backpacking trips. We are going to backpack in the Friday following Labor Day (three weeks from today) and it will be about 5 miles with a fairly steep uphill grade. We’ll camp close to a place called Sunshine — really an idyllic place with a terrific stream, wild-flowers, etc. But we don’t have a permit to camp at Sunshine itself, and we’ll probably have to set up tent further up the rocky mountain. Then early on Saturday, after coffee, we’ll start up Middle Sisters with a lighter pack and with crampons and ice axes in our packs. This guy I sometimes work with is an avid hiker and the experiences he plans are always interesting, even if they are always fairly arduous. We will have our usual hiking stuff — two way radios, GPS devices, water purifiers, etc. Do you go hiking? Gee — the world can sure look wonderful from a campsite looking out (especially if I have my contact lenses in). Makes one appreciate nature a heck of a lot more, I think. Yours, Caleb

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Do you go hiking?

I hike often in the fall and winter and early spring, much less in the summer. Gee — the world can sure look wonderful from a campsite looking out (especially if I have my contact lenses in). Makes one appreciate nature a heck of a lot more, I think.

Agreed. And it’s not just the scenery, I love the smells and the sounds. My GF says food tastes even better outdoors. — Matthew Slow and steady wins the race.

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damo! you got a job!  a volunteer work at an adult summer camp? god bless you damo!

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Open a Hotmail or Yahoo or Gmail account!

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Q: Do you know why the blonde got fired from the M&M factory? A: For throwing out the W’s.

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Hi. I can’t acess my account because the flood of my portugese and Russian spams has prevented it. I can take a handful…say matbe two hundred and delete the spams. But then when I try to get more I just reload the same spams from my account. There are hundreds of spams to each personal message and I can’t recover the messages past……maybe four days ago so I give up. The bad news is thast I am also unable to get to my address book. So……. If you have been one of those lucky individuals to have received any of my group mailings in the past please forward it to me at this address. That way I can contact some of you. Also….. I would particularly want Judy’s e-mail if someone has it. Yeah I’m deep in the woods up along the Hudson River typing this from a small shack/bungalo. Its a real thrill. So I hope no one went too crazy nuts during my absence. Its likely I won’t be posting here much as I have time constraints. Its volunteer work at something like an adult summer camp. Very new agey. One of the courses people are taking is "Advanced Shape Shifting". YUoga classes, drum circles, saunas, kinda neat. The work is very hard. All I get is free place to sleep and free meals. Plus free acess to many classes. So write me if you like. I’ll try to respond but may not be able. I already have a few correspondents whooze address I was able to retrieve. Hay Yo Hi Spheric! Sorry but I am unable to read posts today because of time constraints. We get free web acess too. yeah I lost most all my addresses thanks to the hundreds of spanish and russian e-mails in my webtv account. When I get home I’ll be able to sort it out. See I was off line for maybe four days and my spam volume, hundreds by that time have made acess impossible. So bye bye Hope all is well with all. Yeah see if you can send me a group mailing I sent you I can have addresses I might care and have time, to write to. Making friends with a nightly skunk visitor at my campsite. Very sensitive and compassionate creature. Roadster

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Tak, you are always so deep!   Mimi *always* looked a great deal like the black-and-white kitty whom Pepe falls for.   She was a sweet girl, but she didn’t want to be picked up, mauled, or confined in any way, and she would get a similar, panicky expression on her face to Pepe’s love object whenever someone did it to her.  ;)

I don’t know about deep, but you’re actually the one who pointed this out to me, when you mentioned months ago that Mimi looks and acts a lot like Penelope in the Pepe cartoons.  Mimi must’ve been awfully cute.

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yodeled: Tak, you are always so deep!   Mimi *always* looked a great deal like the black-and-white kitty whom Pepe falls for.   She was a sweet girl, but she didn’t want to be picked up, mauled, or confined in any way, and she would get a similar, panicky expression on her face to Pepe’s love object whenever someone did it to her.  ;) I don’t know about deep, but you’re actually the one who pointed this out to me, when you mentioned months ago that Mimi looks and acts a lot like Penelope in the Pepe cartoons.  Mimi must’ve been awfully cute.

She’s here: http://community.webshots.com/photo/125591586/203810491iBNZxa Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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yodeled: I don’t know about deep, but you’re actually the one who pointed this out to me, when you mentioned months ago that Mimi looks and acts a lot like Penelope in the Pepe cartoons.  Mimi must’ve been awfully cute. She’s here: http://community.webshots.com/photo/125591586/203810491iBNZxa

She sure is very pretty.  No wonder she was irresistible!

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yodeled: yodeled: I don’t know about deep, but you’re actually the one who pointed this out to me, when you mentioned months ago that Mimi looks and acts a lot like Penelope in the Pepe cartoons.  Mimi must’ve been awfully cute. She’s here: http://community.webshots.com/photo/125591586/203810491iBNZxa She sure is very pretty.  No wonder she was irresistible!

Oh thank you, Tak!  She was a precious girl.  Very tiny, but a huge personality. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My dad is a farmer.  He is also a cat lover and all his barn cats are vaccinated and sleek and tame and well cared for. When his cows are calving, he gets up every other hour all night to check on them and make sure they are not in trouble. So late one night, he was out checking the cows and on his way out of the barn he saw a cat sitting by the step.  He went over to give the cat a pet on the head. He was just bending over when he froze because… …because kitty ain’t no kitty…. …because kitty was a black beastie with a long white stripe down his nose to the bottom of his very fluffy tail… Dad froze.  And then very slowly started to stand up and back away. Good thing the skunk was in a good mood.

May I steal this for my story telling class? Pam S. who should be outlining chapters for her critical thinking class

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yodeled: Hee hee.  Pepe Le Pew! Speaking of Pepe, I used to think that Pepe Le Pew was an allegory of the ritual of courtship between men and women, but I’ve come to think that it’s actually about the relationship between cats and us. Probably the cartoonists who created Pepe noted that kitties are very cute and we love to hold and cuddle them, but they don’t always like to be mauled.  Sometimes they’re standoffish.  Sometimes, they get a hilarious look of horror if you take too many liberties, like blowing raspberries on them when they present their belly.

Tak, you are always so deep!    Mimi *always* looked a great deal like the black-and-white kitty whom Pepe falls for.   She was a sweet girl, but she didn’t want to be picked up, mauled, or confined in any way, and she would get a similar, panicky expression on her face to Pepe’s love object whenever someone did it to her.  ;) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hee hee.  Pepe Le Pew! Speaking of Pepe, I used to think that Pepe Le Pew was an allegory of the ritual of courtship between men and women, but I’ve come to think that it’s actually about the relationship between cats and us. Probably the cartoonists who created Pepe noted that kitties are very cute and we love to hold and cuddle them, but they don’t always like to be mauled.  Sometimes they’re standoffish.  Sometimes, they get a hilarious look of horror if you take too many liberties, like blowing raspberries on them when they present their belly. Except, you forgot the one where Pepe’s "lover" was a chihuahua that had gotten stuck in a fur coat because she was jealous of all the other dogs with lovely fur…. at the end, she finally was able to get out of it, and Pepe removed his skunk ‘costume’ to reveal that he was also a dog… they walk off into the sunset together, and the back of Pepe’s dog costume that he’d been wearing under the skunk costume comes unzipped and out popps the big puffy black-n-white skunk tail of his…

Which in turn, reminds me of the end of "Some Like it Hot"– "Nobody’s perfect!" Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -My dad is a farmer.  He is also a cat lover and all his barn cats are vaccinated and sleek and tame and well cared for. When his cows are calving, he gets up every other hour all night to check on them and make sure they are not in trouble. So late one night, he was out checking the cows and on his way out of the barn he saw a cat sitting by the step.  He went over to give the cat a pet on the head. He was just bending over when he froze because… …because kitty ain’t no kitty…. …because kitty was a black beastie with a long white stripe down his nose to the bottom of his very fluffy tail… Dad froze.  And then very slowly started to stand up and back away. Good thing the skunk was in a good mood. –Fil

Hee hee.  Pepe Le Pew! Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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Hee hee.  Pepe Le Pew!

Speaking of Pepe, I used to think that Pepe Le Pew was an allegory of the ritual of courtship between men and women, but I’ve come to think that it’s actually about the relationship between cats and us. Probably the cartoonists who created Pepe noted that kitties are very cute and we love to hold and cuddle them, but they don’t always like to be mauled.  Sometimes they’re standoffish.  Sometimes, they get a hilarious look of horror if you take too many liberties, like blowing raspberries on them when they present their belly.

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Hee hee.  Pepe Le Pew! Speaking of Pepe, I used to think that Pepe Le Pew was an allegory of the ritual of courtship between men and women, but I’ve come to think that it’s actually about the relationship between cats and us. Probably the cartoonists who created Pepe noted that kitties are very cute and we love to hold and cuddle them, but they don’t always like to be mauled.  Sometimes they’re standoffish.  Sometimes, they get a hilarious look of horror if you take too many liberties, like blowing raspberries on them when they present their belly.

Except, you forgot the one where Pepe’s "lover" was a chihuahua that had gotten stuck in a fur coat because she was jealous of all the other dogs with lovely fur…. at the end, she finally was able to get out of it, and Pepe removed his skunk ‘costume’ to reveal that he was also a dog… they walk off into the sunset together, and the back of Pepe’s dog costume that he’d been wearing under the skunk costume comes unzipped and out popps the big puffy black-n-white skunk tail of his… — The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? I don’t know if a concert counts, but about 3 months ago I saw "Buckwheat Zydeco" perform at a small old theater. Tono Niiiiice! One of the best. IMO. FWIW.

Your opinion is worth a lot to me!  I thought I was the only person here who liked Zydeco music?  We were only about 20 feet from the stage. Buckwheat is great, but I must admit that I haven’t heard many others. I think the only other zydeco group I heard is… I can’t spell this so I’ll try it like it sounds, I think it’s French…  Bose-a-lay?  Most of their lyrics are sung in French so to me it all starts sounding the same.  Or maybe their music is all pretty much the same?  One time at a folk festival, they came to our campsite and ended up jamming there.  I would rather have had Buckwheat any day! What other Zydeco groups would you recommend if I love Buckwheat Zydeco? Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? I don’t know if a concert counts, but about 3 months ago I saw "Buckwheat Zydeco" perform at a small old theater. Tono Niiiiice! One of the best. IMO. FWIW. I thought I’d reply twice since my two posts are so drastically different.  The concert was really a bummer for me.  I left and felt like crying.  I would have if I was alone.  Zydeco music seems like it’s the easiest thing to dance to, and I have never fast danced except a few be able to just get out there and do it, but even with the years of seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist, and getting my meds to what may be the best they will ever help, still I’m deathly afraid of getting up and dancing. Many times I’ve been literally dragged out to a dance floor only to stand there frozen.  Then they finally let go and I go back to my seat feeling like the worlds biggest fool.  I know it’s not true that every person in the building has their eyes focused on me, but it always feels that way.  Seriously, seeing other people so care free and not being able to do the same has been a life long curse I have lived with.  It’s one of my worst emotional pains due to anxiety/panic/paranoia.  Why can’t I have fun also? Tono

Hi Tony Have you ever thought of even done, dancing at home on your own. It’s a wonderful feeling just losing yourself in the music knowing for sure that nobody is looking. Close those curtains, turn up the volume (with plenty of base) and go rock your socks off to AC/DC <G When I get a chance to be alone, I love just rockin’ away to the music. It leaves me with a refreshed, free feeling. I dare you to give it a go Tony Love from Caz xoxox — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? I don’t know if a concert counts, but about 3 months ago I saw "Buckwheat Zydeco" perform at a small old theater. Tono Niiiiice! One of the best. IMO. FWIW. I thought I’d reply twice since my two posts are so drastically different.  The concert was really a bummer for me.  I left and felt like crying.  I would have if I was alone.  Zydeco music seems like it’s the easiest thing to dance to, and I have never fast danced except a few times long ago when I was very drunk.  I long so damn with the years of seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist, and getting my meds to what may be the best they will ever help, still I’m deathly afraid of getting up and dancing. Many times I’ve been literally dragged out to a dance floor only to stand there frozen.  Then they finally let go and I go back to my seat feeling like the worlds biggest fool.  I know it’s not true that every person in the building has their eyes focused on me, but it always feels that way.  Seriously, seeing other people so care free and not being able to do the same has been a life long curse I have lived with.  It’s one of my worst emotional pains due to anxiety/panic/paranoia.  Why can’t I have fun also? Tono Hi Tony Have you ever thought of even done, dancing at home on your own. It’s a wonderful feeling just losing yourself in the music knowing for sure that nobody is looking.

I have tried it many, many times.  I’m still paranoid all by myself with the shades drawn.  I *never* know for sure that no one is looking. Paranoia strikes deep Into your life it will creep It starts when you’re always afraid You step out of line, the man come and take you away Tony xoxo — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? I don’t know if a concert counts, but about 3 months ago I saw "Buckwheat Zydeco" perform at a small old theater. Tono Niiiiice! One of the best. IMO. FWIW. I thought I’d reply twice since my two posts are so drastically different.  The concert was really a bummer for me.  I left and felt like crying.  I would have if I was alone.  Zydeco music seems like it’s the easiest thing to dance to, and I have never fast danced except a few times long ago when I was very drunk.  I long so damn with the years of seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist, and getting my meds to what may be the best they will ever help, still I’m deathly afraid of getting up and dancing. Many times I’ve been literally dragged out to a dance floor only to stand there frozen.  Then they finally let go and I go back to my seat feeling like the worlds biggest fool.  I know it’s not true that every person in the building has their eyes focused on me, but it always feels that way.  Seriously, seeing other people so care free and not being able to do the same has been a life long curse I have lived with.  It’s one of my worst emotional pains due to anxiety/panic/paranoia.  Why can’t I have fun also? Tono Hi Tony Have you ever thought of even done, dancing at home on your own. It’s a wonderful feeling just losing yourself in the music knowing for sure that nobody is looking. Close those curtains, turn up the volume (with plenty of base) and go rock your socks off to AC/DC <G When I get a chance to be alone, I love just rockin’ away to the music. It leaves me with a refreshed, free feeling. I dare you to give it a go Tony Love from Caz xoxox

I do that too, it’s lovely. This is great advice. Philip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? I don’t know if a concert counts, but about 3 months ago I saw "Buckwheat Zydeco" perform at a small old theater. Tono Niiiiice! One of the best. IMO. FWIW. Your opinion is worth a lot to me!  I thought I was the only person here who liked Zydeco music?  We were only about 20 feet from the stage. Buckwheat is great, but I must admit that I haven’t heard many others. I think the only other zydeco group I heard is… I can’t spell this so I’ll try it like it sounds, I think it’s French…  Bose-a-lay?

Doesn’t ring a bell.   Most of their lyrics are sung in French so to me it all starts sounding the same.  Or maybe their music is all pretty much the same?  One time at a folk festival, they came to our campsite and ended up jamming there.  I would rather have had Buckwheat any day! What other Zydeco groups would you recommend if I love Buckwheat Zydeco?

Actually there are two kinds of music down in Louisiana which sort of developed over the decades and are very much alike: Zydeco (the black version) and Cajun (the white version). The lyrics are invariably in the peculiar kind of French they speak there. In more contemporary efforts there is a leaning towards fusion with rock music and writing in English but those recordings are also quite interesting. I’m not an expert but here are some names. Zydeco: Clifton Chenier (by far the most famous representative of Zydeco), Queen Ida and her Zydeco Band, Nathan & The Zydeco Cha-Chas, Boozoo Chavis, John Delafosse & The Eunice Playboys, Willis Prudhomme & Zydeco Express. On the Rounder label there are some good compilations as well as a CD with early Zydeco called *Zudeco Birth*. Cajun: The Balfa Brothers (fifties), D.L. Menard, Sidney Bergeron, BGruce Daigrepont, Michael Doucet & Beausoleil, Eddie Lejeune, Rocking Dopsie & his Cajun Twisters, Wayne Toups. Compilations again on Rounder including the wonderful Cajun 1929-1939 and two volumes called Louisiana Cajun. Philippe Hollande (Zydecajun) — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? I don’t know if a concert counts, but about 3 months ago I saw "Buckwheat Zydeco" perform at a small old theater. Tono Niiiiice! One of the best. IMO. FWIW.

I thought I’d reply twice since my two posts are so drastically different.  The concert was really a bummer for me.  I left and felt like crying.  I would have if I was alone.  Zydeco music seems like it’s the easiest thing to dance to, and I have never fast danced except a few be able to just get out there and do it, but even with the years of seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist, and getting my meds to what may be the best they will ever help, still I’m deathly afraid of getting up and dancing. Many times I’ve been literally dragged out to a dance floor only to stand there frozen.  Then they finally let go and I go back to my seat feeling like the worlds biggest fool.  I know it’s not true that every person in the building has their eyes focused on me, but it always feels that way.  Seriously, seeing other people so care free and not being able to do the same has been a life long curse I have lived with.  It’s one of my worst emotional pains due to anxiety/panic/paranoia.  Why can’t I have fun also? Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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A grade school Christmas show…lol! smiles, Elise

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? I don’t know if a concert counts, but about 3 months ago I saw "Buckwheat Zydeco" perform at a small old theater. Tono Niiiiice! One of the best. IMO. FWIW. P. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended?

I don’t know if a concert counts, but about 3 months ago I saw "Buckwheat Zydeco" perform at a small old theater. Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? I don’t know if a concert counts, but about 3 months ago I saw "Buckwheat Zydeco" perform at a small old theater. Tono

Niiiiice! One of the best. IMO. FWIW. P. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I had never been before, either.  It was an interesting experience. Aside from the production itself, which was beautifully performed but (for me, at least) somewhat dull, the experience was slightly marred by some young women (college age) sitting in front of us.  One girl, who just happened to sit RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME (why does this always happen?), had the most horrendously large hair I’ve ever seen.  It just stuck straight up on her head about six to eight inches and was like a tall hat.  It looked as if she could have tamed it down (it appeared to have been teased to that height), so I think it was rude of her to show up like that in a place that lacks stadium seating.  I am 5′3", so it was impossible to see past her hair.  We ended up moving to some empty seats with the usher’s blessing.  Others were very annoyed by her as well and made sympathetic comments to me when I was still behind her. In this day and age you just don’t expect people to have tall hair (the beehive has been out of fashion for quite a while .

Dawn, if you were sitting behind me you would have been able to see. I’m bald. So I won’t be returning to the opera any time soon.  We spent too much money to see something that we didn’t really love. The symphony would be much more to my liking.

Same here. But I know some people who really love going to the opera. I never acquired a taste for it. Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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The Arizona Opera’s production of La Boheme, March 2004. I’ve never been to an opera, Dawn. I used to go to concerts of the SF Symphony Orchestra while in college and grad school. My agoraphobia keeps me from going downtown SF now. Chip

Chip, I had never been before, either.  It was an interesting experience. Aside from the production itself, which was beautifully performed but (for me, at least) somewhat dull, the experience was slightly marred by some young women (college age) sitting in front of us.  One girl, who just happened to sit RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME (why does this always happen?), had the most horrendously large hair I’ve ever seen.  It just stuck straight up on her head about six to eight inches and was like a tall hat.  It looked as if she could have tamed it down (it appeared to have been teased to that height), so I think it was rude of her to show up like that in a place that lacks stadium seating.  I am 5′3", so it was impossible to see past her hair.  We ended up moving to some empty seats with the usher’s blessing.  Others were very annoyed by her as well and made sympathetic comments to me when I was still behind her. In this day and age you just don’t expect people to have tall hair (the beehive has been out of fashion for quite a while . So I won’t be returning to the opera any time soon.  We spent too much money to see something that we didn’t really love. The symphony would be much more to my liking. Dawn — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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X-NoArchive: yes 6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended?

A dance recital/show a few weeks ago. I used to go to plays a whole bunch, but not anymore. Boo hoo. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Cherrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did they do Primal Scream? Love it…tear down the house with that blaring. They did, now I’m singing it. Oddly the crowd in general didn’t really get into any of the show, the majority stayed seated through the whole thing….boring.  ;)  The crowds were livlier at Dylan, Cher, and the Beach Boys. Jess 6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? Jackie ~*~Dreaming permits each of and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives~*~ -William Dement Culteral, eh?  Does seeing Motley Crue count?  Otherwise it’d have to be the trip to the MFA Boston. Jess — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Did they do Primal Scream? Love it…tear down the house with that blaring.

They did, now I’m singing it. Oddly the crowd in general didn’t really get into any of the show, the majority stayed seated through the whole thing….boring.  ;)  The crowds were livlier at Dylan, Cher, and the Beach Boys. Jess – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? Jackie ~*~Dreaming permits each of and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives~*~ -William Dement Culteral, eh?  Does seeing Motley Crue count?  Otherwise it’d have to be the trip to the MFA Boston. Jess — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? Jackie ~*~Dreaming permits each of and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives~*~ -William Dement

Culteral, eh?  Does seeing Motley Crue count?  Otherwise it’d have to be the trip to the MFA Boston. Jess — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Did they do Primal Scream? Love it…tear down the house with that blaring.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? Jackie ~*~Dreaming permits each of and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives~*~ -William Dement Culteral, eh?  Does seeing Motley Crue count?  Otherwise it’d have to be the trip to the MFA Boston. Jess — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended?

The opening of an art show today for which I wrote part of the catalogue. Philip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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The Arizona Opera’s production of La Boheme, March 2004.

I’ve never been to an opera, Dawn. I used to go to concerts of the SF Symphony Orchestra while in college and grad school. My agoraphobia keeps me from going downtown SF now. Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended?

It was prolly the community college presentation of Beethoven’s "Missa Solemnis" about 1995. I took my son. My butt got sore after sitting about 30 minutes. Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? Jackie ~*~Dreaming permits each of and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives~*~ -William Dement — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended? Jackie ~*~Dreaming permits each of and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives~*~ -William Dement

The Arizona Opera’s production of La Boheme, March 2004. Dawn — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended?

Senior Arts Day at my kids’ high school!  :-) xxoo Anne — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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6/07/05: Today`s question is being brought to you by our very own John  :) What was the last ‘cultural’ event you attended?

That depends entirely upon your definition of ‘culture.’  It could be as recently as 3 weeks ago or as long as never:) — Ron P It isn’t the fall that hurts:) It’s the sudden stop:( — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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FF <fuchsiafa…@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:26:12 GMT, dame_zum…@yahoo.com (Louise Bremner) > wrote: > >Idle curiosity, but I wonder which part of the Channel this is? > ><http://www.gesource.ac.uk/worldguide/html/image_1594.html> > The bit like a claw coming down from the top of the pic is Cornwall > including Lands End and Penzance (of Pirates fame): > here’s the map: > http://tinyurl.com/9zy4x

Aha! OK, I didn’t think that’s still part of the Channel (and I haven’t been that far West myself–only as far as Teignmouth, when I was seven). > and the big bit of land on the right is Brittany, France: > http://tinyurl.com/9zy4x

*ahem* Same URL…. But point taken. > Somewhere on that spikey looking double bay is a tiny campsite we stayed > at in 1990. The car battery went flat & the litle old camsite lady let > us recharge it from the mains for free. It was the night England went > out of the World Cup on penalties:-( but we were able to listen to it > all on the car radio as the battery recharged. The campsite (and the > lady!) were there when we went back in 2002. > (Oh and the local garage towed us back to the campsite for free on the > grounds we weren’t German tourists wantingto get back to hear the > match:-)

Heheheh > >>  ooh no sorry, they listen to us with these beautiful creatures: > >> http://www.veggies.org.uk/calendar/menwith.gif > >Heh…. Those are just the covers. > Wass underneath then? little men with ear trumpets?

No, no, *B*I*G* men with ear trumpets! ________________________________________________________________________                    Louise Bremner (log at gol dot com)    If you want a reply by e-mail, don’t write to my Yahoo address!

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"FF" <fuchsiafa…@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:gdod61tqkonb9idjljt0651lfendih35d0@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:05:57 GMT, "Jette Goldie" > <j…@blueyonder.com.uk> > wrote: >>"Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote in >>message >>news:1114029713.969ad9feb5bdfdea10739946a3b063b3@bubbanews… >>> "Cathy Friedmann" <c…@adelphia.net> wrote in >>> news:nqWdnUXQB4JjIPvfRVn-vQ@adelphia.com: >>> > I did two searches – one Port Isaac out in Cornwall – wanted to >>see a >>> > B&B where we stayed, & one for Gloucester Road in London – where >>my >>> > sister had digs in college, but no satellite images. >>> You mean, no satellite images YET.  :-) >>> Chak, who has confidence in google >>Assuming there’s a satellite taking images of the UK? > Of course there is, those USAans are listening to every word we say! > LOL!  :-) > http://www.gesource.ac.uk/worldguide/html/1053_satellite.html > ooh no sorry, they listen to us with these beautiful creatures: > http://www.veggies.org.uk/calendar/menwith.gif

You mean they’re not our native Cactii ? — Shirley http://community.webshots.com/user/shirleycatuk – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Liz

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news:3cpfhiF6pflj4U1@individual.net… > Chakolate <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote: > > Google maps and Google local are available for the UK now: > > http://maps.google.co.uk/ > > http://local.google.co.uk/ > > Chak, off to look at the University of Edinburgh… > Google maps is a very well integrated tool with good pan and zoom, but > you’ll end up getting better maps, and in some cases aerial > photographs too, by using the traditional UK mapping utilities you can > find on my web page under "maps and addresses". > http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/

Yes, I’ve used this link before – it’s very good! Cathy

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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:26:12 GMT, dame_zum…@yahoo.com (Louise Bremner) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->FF <fuchsiafa…@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:05:57 GMT, "Jette Goldie" <j…@blueyonder.com.uk> >> wrote: >> >"Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote in message >> >news:1114029713.969ad9feb5bdfdea10739946a3b063b3@bubbanews… >> >> "Cathy Friedmann" <c…@adelphia.net> wrote in >> >> news:nqWdnUXQB4JjIPvfRVn-vQ@adelphia.com: >> >> > I did two searches – one Port Isaac out in Cornwall – wanted to >> >see a >> >> > B&B where we stayed, & one for Gloucester Road in London – where >> >my >> >> > sister had digs in college, but no satellite images. >> >> You mean, no satellite images YET.  :-) >> >> Chak, who has confidence in google >> >Assuming there’s a satellite taking images of the UK? >> Of course there is, those USAans are listening to every word we say! >> LOL!  :-) >> http://www.gesource.ac.uk/worldguide/html/1053_satellite.html >Oooooo…. >Idle curiosity, but I wonder which part of the Channel this is? ><http://www.gesource.ac.uk/worldguide/html/image_1594.html>

The bit like a claw coming down from the top of the pic is Cornwall including Lands End and Penzance (of Pirates fame): here’s the map: http://tinyurl.com/9zy4x and the big bit of land on the right is Brittany, France: http://tinyurl.com/9zy4x Somewhere on that spikey looking double bay is a tiny campsite we stayed at in 1990. The car battery went flat & the litle old camsite lady let us recharge it from the mains for free. It was the night England went out of the World Cup on penalties:-( but we were able to listen to it all on the car radio as the battery recharged. The campsite (and the lady!) were there when we went back in 2002. (Oh and the local garage towed us back to the campsite for free on the grounds we weren’t German tourists wantingto get back to hear the match:-) >>  ooh no sorry, they listen to us with these beautiful creatures: >> http://www.veggies.org.uk/calendar/menwith.gif >Heh…. Those are just the covers.

Wass underneath then? little men with ear trumpets? Liz

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Chakolate <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote: > Google maps and Google local are available for the UK now: > http://maps.google.co.uk/ > http://local.google.co.uk/ > Chak, off to look at the University of Edinburgh…

Google maps is a very well integrated tool with good pan and zoom, but you’ll end up getting better maps, and in some cases aerial photographs too, by using the traditional UK mapping utilities you can find on my web page under "maps and addresses". http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/ The university web site has lots of specific campus maps. http://www.ed.ac.uk/maps/ Because it’s an old university (400 years old), it has buildings and campuses spread throughout the city. You can’t actually take a visitor anyhere, and point, and say, "THAT is Edinburgh University". Just as, as Gilbert Ryle pointed out, you can’t take someone to a dissected human body and point, and say "THAT is the human mind." — Chris Malcolm c…@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205 IPAB,  Informatics,  JCMB, King’s Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

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Louise Bremner wrote: > FF <fuchsiafa…@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:05:57 GMT, "Jette Goldie"

<j…@blueyonder.com.uk> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > wrote: > > >"Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote in message > > >news:1114029713.969ad9feb5bdfdea10739946a3b063b3@bubbanews… > > >> "Cathy Friedmann" <c…@adelphia.net> wrote in > > >> news:nqWdnUXQB4JjIPvfRVn-vQ@adelphia.com: > > >> > I did two searches – one Port Isaac out in Cornwall – wanted to > > >see a > > >> > B&B where we stayed, & one for Gloucester Road in London – where > > >my > > >> > sister had digs in college, but no satellite images. > > >> You mean, no satellite images YET.  :-) > > >> Chak, who has confidence in google > > >Assuming there’s a satellite taking images of the UK? > > Of course there is, those USAans are listening to every word we say! > > LOL!  :-) > > http://www.gesource.ac.uk/worldguide/html/1053_satellite.html > Oooooo…. > Idle curiosity, but I wonder which part of the Channel this is? > <http://www.gesource.ac.uk/worldguide/html/image_1594.html>

It’s at an odd angle, but the top bit of land (upper left of picture as you look at it) is Cornwall, the bottom, France. Jette

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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:05:57 GMT, "Jette Goldie" <j…@blueyonder.com.uk> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->"Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote in message >news:1114029713.969ad9feb5bdfdea10739946a3b063b3@bubbanews… >> "Cathy Friedmann" <c…@adelphia.net> wrote in >> news:nqWdnUXQB4JjIPvfRVn-vQ@adelphia.com: >> > I did two searches – one Port Isaac out in Cornwall – wanted to >see a >> > B&B where we stayed, & one for Gloucester Road in London – where >my >> > sister had digs in college, but no satellite images. >> You mean, no satellite images YET.  :-) >> Chak, who has confidence in google >Assuming there’s a satellite taking images of the UK?

Of course there is, those USAans are listening to every word we say! LOL!  :-) http://www.gesource.ac.uk/worldguide/html/1053_satellite.html  ooh no sorry, they listen to us with these beautiful creatures: http://www.veggies.org.uk/calendar/menwith.gif Liz

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -FF <fuchsiafa…@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:05:57 GMT, "Jette Goldie" <j…@blueyonder.com.uk> > wrote: > >"Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote in message > >news:1114029713.969ad9feb5bdfdea10739946a3b063b3@bubbanews… > >> "Cathy Friedmann" <c…@adelphia.net> wrote in > >> news:nqWdnUXQB4JjIPvfRVn-vQ@adelphia.com: > >> > I did two searches – one Port Isaac out in Cornwall – wanted to > >see a > >> > B&B where we stayed, & one for Gloucester Road in London – where > >my > >> > sister had digs in college, but no satellite images. > >> You mean, no satellite images YET.  :-) > >> Chak, who has confidence in google > >Assuming there’s a satellite taking images of the UK? > Of course there is, those USAans are listening to every word we say! > LOL!  :-) > http://www.gesource.ac.uk/worldguide/html/1053_satellite.html

Oooooo…. Idle curiosity, but I wonder which part of the Channel this is? <http://www.gesource.ac.uk/worldguide/html/image_1594.html> >  ooh no sorry, they listen to us with these beautiful creatures: > http://www.veggies.org.uk/calendar/menwith.gif

Heh…. Those are just the covers. ________________________________________________________________________                    Louise Bremner (log at gol dot com)    If you want a reply by e-mail, don’t write to my Yahoo address!

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"Cathy Friedmann" <c…@adelphia.net> wrote in news:nqWdnUXQB4JjIPvfRVn-vQ@adelphia.com: > I did two searches – one Port Isaac out in Cornwall – wanted to see a > B&B where we stayed, & one for Gloucester Road in London – where my > sister had digs in college, but no satellite images.

You mean, no satellite images YET.  :-) Chak, who has confidence in google — It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.   –Krishnamurti I accept private emails to chakolate AT allvantage DOT com, and I will never knowingly violate their privacy.

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"Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote in message

news:1114029713.969ad9feb5bdfdea10739946a3b063b3@bubbanews… > "Cathy Friedmann" <c…@adelphia.net> wrote in > news:nqWdnUXQB4JjIPvfRVn-vQ@adelphia.com: > > I did two searches – one Port Isaac out in Cornwall – wanted to see a > > B&B where we stayed, & one for Gloucester Road in London – where my > > sister had digs in college, but no satellite images. > You mean, no satellite images YET.  :-) > Chak, who has confidence in google

Assuming there’s a satellite taking images of the UK? — Jette je…@blueyonder.co.uk http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk The difference between men and boys is the cost of their toys"

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Google maps and Google local are available for the UK now: http://maps.google.co.uk/ http://local.google.co.uk/ Chak, off to look at the University of Edinburgh… — It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.   –Krishnamurti I accept private emails to chakolate AT allvantage DOT com, and I will never knowingly violate their privacy.

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"Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> wrote in message

news:Xns963E9B6CE6259chakolatehotmailcom@81.174.12.30… > Google maps and Google local are available for the UK now: > http://maps.google.co.uk/

I did two searches – one Port Isaac out in Cornwall – wanted to see a B&B where we stayed, & one for Gloucester Road in London – where my sister had digs in college, but no satellite images. Cathy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> http://local.google.co.uk/ > Chak, off to look at the University of Edinburgh… > — > It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick > society. >   –Krishnamurti > I accept private emails to chakolate AT allvantage DOT com, and I will > never knowingly violate their privacy.

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A typo for wanderjahr, German for "year of travel".  It refers to the old custom of having young people take a year to travel and see the world before settling down and getting a job.  Hence, a vacation, particularly one that involves seeing lots of different places.

Ok, I tried, right?  We’re still playing with places to travel to. Mobile Bay and the Florida Panhandle are possibilities (though hot) and I’m interested in West Virginia.  So opportunities abound.  I wish I could take that trip to Australia and kidnap Vicky, though. Pam S.

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Ramona was asking me earlier this week about my vacation plans.  Got a family reunion in NE Mississippy 7/1-7/4 (not staying for the whole thing – other family in Alabama to see.  Then 7/7-7/10 in Toad Suck.  Unless my vacation gets screwed over again, we’ll be there, but we gotta have a motel room.  Since we’ll be coming from NE AL, we could pick up a passenger or two along the way. Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

Ok, so one of us picks up Jill in Memphis (your choice as to which of us kidnaps her) and that gets us up to three for Toadsuck. Pam S.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So why am I posting this now?  Well now is the time to plan this puppy, or is that kitty, out.  Do we want to meet at a campsite or at a motel?  How many of us are interested in getting together.  How many of us are going to be there.  I’m planning on the 7th through 10th of July. Yes, I know it’s hot, but it will be hot just about every where in the USA at that time.  What activities are we interested in?  Are there people interested in having a real troll-be-que?  If there are people who can’t get there under their own steam, are there others who are willing to transport them?  Come on people, I want to get together and stay up all night munching snacks and yakking. Talked to Rob and we’re thinking about doing a wonderjahr (I’m sure I spelled that wrong) around the Toad Suck date. Ok, whats a wonderjahr? A typo for wanderjahr, German for "year of travel".  It refers to the old custom of having young people take a year to travel and see the world before settling down and getting a job.  Hence, a vacation, particularly one that involves seeing lots of different places.

Oh, do you mean *walkabout*? The point of the excercise is not to get anywhere in particular, but simply enjoy the travelling wherever it takes you. Pick a direction South, west or North (east would just get us very very wet) and see where we end up after 3 hours travel down "I wonder where this goes?" roads. We’ve been discovering places less than 100km away from our place that we never knew existed, and I’ve lived in this area all my life (bar the first 4). Its great fun. Yowie

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As you probably recall from my adventure trying to get to the midwest to adopt Harri, it’s kind of difficult for me to get out of the western US. But Harri Roadcat and I will do our best to get out to Toad Suck.

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A typo for wanderjahr, German for "year of travel".  It refers to the old custom of having young people take a year to travel and see the world before settling down and getting a job.  Hence, a vacation, particularly one that involves seeing lots of different places. Ok, I tried, right?  We’re still playing with places to travel to. Mobile Bay and the Florida Panhandle are possibilities (though hot) and I’m interested in West Virginia.  So opportunities abound.  I wish I could take that trip to Australia and kidnap Vicky, though.

No problem.  I don’t speak German, except for a few loan-words that I have picked up; that happened to be one of the ones that I know. — PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." — Hypatia of Alexandria

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ramona was asking me earlier this week about my vacation plans.  Got a family reunion in NE Mississippy 7/1-7/4 (not staying for the whole thing – other family in Alabama to see.  Then 7/7-7/10 in Toad Suck.  Unless my vacation gets screwed over again, we’ll be there, but we gotta have a motel room.  Since we’ll be coming from NE AL, we could pick up a passenger or two along the way. Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe Ok, so one of us picks up Jill in Memphis (your choice as to which of us kidnaps her) and that gets us up to three for Toadsuck. Pam S.

LOL!  Wish someone could, dear!  But I can’t afford a motel, don’t have camping equipment, can’t afford to board the pets, yada yada yada. (sigh) When I travel with John he pays for everything.  Those dates will also be right at the height of "show season". Jill

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As you probably recall from my adventure trying to get to the midwest to adopt Harri, it’s kind of difficult for me to get out of the western US. But Harri Roadcat and I will do our best to get out to Toad Suck.

That would be totally AWESOME, Dan. Pam S. getting excited again.

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Oh, do you mean *walkabout*? The point of the excercise is not to get anywhere in particular, but simply enjoy the travelling wherever it takes you. Pick a direction South, west or North (east would just get us very very wet) and see where we end up after 3 hours travel down "I wonder where this goes?" roads. We’ve been discovering places less than 100km away from our place that we never knew existed, and I’ve lived in this area all my life (bar the first 4). Its great fun. Yowie

Exactly.  Our family calls it "Road trip."  We’re planning on one Saturday.  We’re supposed to pay for and collect a second hand fireplace insert from a town north of Carthage North Carolina.  Carthage is an awesome little town.  Most of the houses are gingerbread Victorian, restored to their full glory.  I wouldn’t mind living in one of them, if I could afford it. Pam S. eager for this weekend’s road trip

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For those who joined our merry little band of the feline owned since last July, let me briefly tell you the history of this upcoming event. Last spring, Sherry R. mentioned that she and her husband were driving down I-40 in Arkansas and saw an exit sign for a place called Toad Suck Arkansas.  Sherry wanted to check the place out, as the name had caught her imagination, but her hubby said no and kept on driving.  Toad Suck jokes abounded on the group and by June, Sherry wasn’t the only curious person in the group. June 2004:  My family starts it’s epic journey across country from Fayetteville North Carolina to Idaho and into Washington State then British Columbia Canada then back to North Carolina again.  I have posted requests to meet up with anyone willing to tolerate us, and received replies from various places.  Our route will take us down I-40 to Flagstaff Arizona and then north to Idaho, giving us a chance to see the Grand Canyon on this trip.  Sherry is one of the people we are going to connect with. With Sherry in mind, we visit Toad Suck Arkansas.  When we meet Sherry and Steve Touchstone (awesome people BTW) we find out that our trip has caught the group’s imagination.  I start cooking up ideas to meet more of the most wonderful people in the world.  By the time we meet Christine Burel and her family in Albuquerque New Mexico, Rob and I are discussing ways to get us together.  It is brought up to Christine, and she adds some great ideas of her own to the mix. We meet Dave Yehuddah and his brother in law in Flagstaff and become determined to find a place for us to meet as many others as we can.  I first bring up the idea of Kansas City Missouri, as it is both centrally located and out in the middle of no where.  Dave Y is interested but noncommittal. We met Sam and Ramona Nash at Grand Coulee Dam Washington and find that you can talk to someone for hours and still want to talk for days.  This is just a confirmation of the earlier meetings we’ve had.  By now both Rob and I are addicted to meeting group members.  We’re thrilled when we get to meet KLC and Loen in Penticton Canada.  They are so totally wonderful it isn’t funny.  We’re discussing all sorts of possibilities for meetings and I bring up Kansas City Missouri as a possible meeting place.  Rob suggests Toad Suck Arkansas instead, as it matches the strangeness of our group.  We all agree that Rob is a genius and we have to try to gather us together. We get home and the idea of the Toad Suck gathering is born. So why am I posting this now?  Well now is the time to plan this puppy, or is that kitty, out.  Do we want to meet at a campsite or at a motel?   How many of us are interested in getting together.  How many of us are going to be there.  I’m planning on the 7th through 10th of July.  Yes, I know it’s hot, but it will be hot just about every where in the USA at that time.  What activities are we interested in?  Are there people interested in having a real troll-be-que?  If there are people who can’t get there under their own steam, are there others who are willing to transport them?  Come on people, I want to get together and stay up all night munching snacks and yakking. Pam S.

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rec.pets.cats.anecdotes  If there are people who can’t get there under their own steam, are there others who are willing to transport them?  Come on people, I want to get together and stay up all night munching snacks and yakking.

Thanks for the recap. lol I loved reading the progression of your trip last year. As much as I’d love to meet some of you guys, and I don’t even have vacation plans this year due to some of the folks I go to Myrtle Beach with each year planning other things for the summer, my cat sitter (my mom) said she isn’t comfortable now that there are new additions.  Too afraid they’re too rambunctious and will get out when she comes in.  Can’t blame her. I worry about that too, since they are fearless hoolikittens. I hope to see a play-by- play this summer!!! — Cheryl

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For those who joined our merry little band of the feline owned since last July, let me briefly tell you the history of this upcoming event. We get home and the idea of the Toad Suck gathering is born. Pam S.

I think the Toad Suck campground has a picnic area we can rent for a troll-be-que.  I don’t know how much it would cost, but we could chip in if it’s not too bad. Jim & I would like to come, but probably would only get to be there one day, unless we’re both not working.  We’d have to stay at a motel, but don’t mind getting mosquito bit for a campground meeting.  Of course, a motel would be air-conditioned, and we wouldn’t object to that, either. Annie

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I think the Toad Suck campground has a picnic area we can rent for a troll-be-que.  I don’t know how much it would cost, but we could chip in if it’s not too bad. Jim & I would like to come, but probably would only get to be there one day, unless we’re both not working.  We’d have to stay at a motel, but don’t mind getting mosquito bit for a campground meeting.  Of course, a motel would be air-conditioned, and we wouldn’t object to that, either. Annie

I dunno about the campground, but the park on the other side of the river has picnic areas.  It’s very beautiful.  I’m thinking about using a motel room as well as I have this thing about dying from heat exhaustion.  I just have to get it past the hubster…. Pam S. who would love to find a motel with a meeting room

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think the Toad Suck campground has a picnic area we can rent for a troll-be-que.  I don’t know how much it would cost, but we could chip in if it’s not too bad. Jim & I would like to come, but probably would only get to be there one day, unless we’re both not working.  We’d have to stay at a motel, but don’t mind getting mosquito bit for a campground meeting.  Of course, a motel would be air-conditioned, and we wouldn’t object to that, either. Annie I dunno about the campground, but the park on the other side of the river has picnic areas.  It’s very beautiful.  I’m thinking about using a motel room as well as I have this thing about dying from heat exhaustion.  I just have to get it past the hubster…. Pam S. who would love to find a motel with a meeting room

Pam, keep in mind that if you get enough people committed to come that most major motel/hotel chains have group departments that will help you get a block of rooms at a nice discount and can probably set you up with a free or low cost events meeting room if the motel has one. For instance I see there is a Holiday Inn Express not too far from Toad Suck and we’ve had good success with them booking rooms for large family gatherings. Unfortunately we will not be able to attend as we will be in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan trying not to freeze our tootsies off in Lake Superior (and loving every minute of it). — Margaret Fine

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For those who joined our merry little band of the feline owned since last July, let me briefly tell you the history of this upcoming

event. LOL…well, as much as I’d love to meet the old timers I know (including Sherry!) I’m afraid my travel is booked for this year! Hope you have fun! -L.

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Phil, Molly and I are interested.  It would be nice to meet the people who make us laugh on a regular basis. Diane

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So why am I posting this now?  Well now is the time to plan this puppy, or is that kitty, out.  Do we want to meet at a campsite or at a motel?   How many of us are interested in getting together.  How many of us are going to be there.  I’m planning on the 7th through 10th of July.  Yes, I know it’s hot, but it will be hot just about every where in the USA at that time.  What activities are we interested in?  Are there people interested in having a real troll-be-que?  If there are people who can’t get there under their own steam, are there others who are willing to transport them?  Come on people, I want to get together and stay up all night munching snacks and yakking. Pam S.

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… I dunno about the campground, but the park on the other side of the river has picnic areas.  It’s very beautiful.  I’m thinking about using a motel room as well as I have this thing about dying from heat exhaustion.  I just have to get it past the hubster…. Pam S. who would love to find a motel with a meeting room

Have you been able to reach the contact I gave you?  I’m sure she’d be able to recommend a place. Generally, if a group goes the same motel and rents a meeting room, the motel will give a special group rate to people who stay there. Annie

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We get home and the idea of the Toad Suck gathering is born. So why am I posting this now?  Well now is the time to plan this puppy, or is that kitty, out.  Do we want to meet at a campsite or at a motel?  How many of us are interested in getting together.  How many of us are going to be there.  I’m planning on the 7th through 10th of July.  Yes, I know it’s hot, but it will be hot just about every where in the USA at that time.  What activities are we interested in?  Are there people interested in having a real troll-be-que?  If there are people who can’t get there under their own steam, are there others who are willing to transport them?  Come on people, I want to get together and stay up all night munching snacks and yakking.

Much as it   sounds like a fun place to meet, and probably as convenient as most places we all could meet, I was under the impression that the idea was to meet there at the time they held the festival.  We might even get some local press coverage or discount deals.  The thing is, the festival is held the first weekend in May. Here’s a quote about the festival from one of the official sources. Toad Suck Daze Fun for the entire family!!! Conway Arkansas is home to Toad Suck Daze!  Toad Suck Daze was started over 20 years ago.   Long ago, steamboats traveled the Arkansas River when the water was at the right depth. When it wasn’t, the captains and their crew tied up to wait where the Toad Suck Lock and Dam now spans the river. While they waited, they refreshed themselves at the local tavern there, to the dismay of the folks living nearby, who said: "They suck on the bottle ’til they swell up like toads." Hence, the name Toad Suck. The tavern is long gone, but the legend and fun live on at Toad Suck Daze. Toad Suck Daze was awarded the 2001 Heritage Award at the Governor’s Conference on Tourism. Toad Suck Daze was named the 1998 Festival of the Year by the Arkansas Festival Association Toad Suck Daze was selected to represent the state of Arkansas in the Library of Congress 2000 exhibit "Local Legacies: A National Project to Document American Community Traditions." As part of the celebration of the 200th birthday of the Library of Congress, "Local Legacies" will provide future generations with "snapshots" of everyday life in America at the turn of the century. Toad Suck Daze was voted as one of the Top 100 Events by the American Bus Association in 1997. Toad Suck Daze is held the first weekend of May each year.  Come out and enjoy the fun. Judy Gerber

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You must be truly desperate. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A TYPICAL TREK DAY:

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A TYPICAL TREK DAY: A typical trek day begins 6:00 am with bed tea served in tents by the assistant staff followed by bowls of hot water for washing. Then while clients pack their kit bags and rucksacks for the day, breakfast is prepared. This usually consist of porridge or cereal, eggs, parathas/panacakes with jam, honey and tea or coffee. While clients eat, the porters and crew take down the tents so that everyone is ready to move by 7:30am at the latest to avoid walking in the hottest part of the place with fresh water available where lunch is served. Typical lunch will be a selection of the following: corned beef, tuna, sardines, barbecued chicken, cheese, salted/sweet biscuits, Pakistani food such as samosas, tinned /dried fruit and nut as well as tea or coffee. The next stage of the walk to the campsite is usually sorted and once the campsite is reached tea and biscuits plus Pakistani specialties are served. The crew will have already erected the tents so there is time to relax and wash while dinner is prepared. Dinner is prepared just after sunset as the temperature starts to fall – hot soup for starter followed by various Pakistani and international dishes ending with desert and tea, coffee and hot chocolate. Finally if adventure does not appeal and you are more interested in the history and culture of the country we have various tours which may be of interest. These historical trips extend from the khyber pass, the ancient gateway to the subcontinent, to Moenjodaro a 5000 years old city near the shores of the Arabian sea. You will also visit the tribal town of Peshawer with its famous storyteller’s bazaar and witness to the splendors of the historical city of Lahore with its Mughal monuments such as the Shalimar Garden, Badshahi Mosque and the old fort. Further more we offer several tours covering the whole of Pakistan and joint tours with China across the Khunjrab Pass. We believe in personalized services and do our utmost to make every tour and trek a memorable one. We hope that you will give us the opportunity to share with you the wonders of Pakistan and feel confident that we can offer a trip to suit your needs. We look forward to welcome you on our treks and assure you of our best services and attention. For Further Details: Flat #2, Block 5-B, St. 30, I-8/1, P.O Box No. 2994, Islamabad – Pakistan.  Tel: 92-51-4441258, Fax: 92-51-4442127 www.hunza.com.pk

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Two things I never go camping at OSH without: 1) earplugs 2) eyeshade My GF was pissed at me last year because I slept completely through the big storm… So the busses, John Deeres, and dawn patrol launches bother not my sound slumber!!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In rec.aviation.owning Mark T. Mueller : A BIG "thanks" to Jay and crew for the party on Wednesday night. : Jay probably had the BEST camp site on the North 40 – right on the departure : end of 27. : I appreciated your hospitality. Great party, and a good bunch of people to : hang out with. Got to put a few faces with the names. : Looking forward to next year. I will second that. I’m happy that I finally had a chance to meet some of the other folks at r.a.o! Thanks again, Jay, Mary, Joey, Becca! PS, that was a pretty good campsite. I was on the other side of 27, also with the tail against the perimiter road. It was like camping in Grand Central Station with the busses, cars, trucks, and 2-cycle John Deere machines driving by every 6 seconds! — Aaron Coolidge (N9376J)

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In rec.aviation.owning Mark T. Mueller : A BIG "thanks" to Jay and crew for the party on Wednesday night. : Jay probably had the BEST camp site on the North 40 – right on the departure : end of 27. : I appreciated your hospitality. Great party, and a good bunch of people to : hang out with. Got to put a few faces with the names. : Looking forward to next year. I will second that. I’m happy that I finally had a chance to meet some of the other folks at r.a.o! Thanks again, Jay, Mary, Joey, Becca! PS, that was a pretty good campsite. I was on the other side of 27, also with the tail against the perimiter road. It was like camping in Grand Central Station with the busses, cars, trucks, and 2-cycle John Deere machines driving by every 6 seconds! — Aaron Coolidge (N9376J)

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Well, the last of the pool party guests have been delivered to their planes, and are winging their way toward OSH as I type this.  We’ll be following them up in a few hours… The sky is blue, the wind is calm, and it’s finally time to immerse ourselves in aircraft and airplane people for the next 7 glorious days! Man, it’s been a long time coming… Hope to see some of you folks up there on Wednesday night! — Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"

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A BIG "thanks" to Jay and crew for the party on Wednesday night. Jay probably had the BEST camp site on the North 40 – right on the departure end of 27. I appreciated your hospitality. Great party, and a good bunch of people to hang out with. Got to put a few faces with the names. Looking forward to next year. Mark Tiger N1533R

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, the last of the pool party guests have been delivered to their planes, and are winging their way toward OSH as I type this.  We’ll be following them up in a few hours… The sky is blue, the wind is calm, and it’s finally time to immerse ourselves in aircraft and airplane people for the next 7 glorious days! Man, it’s been a long time coming… Hope to see some of you folks up there on Wednesday night! — Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"

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I’m finally catching up with the newsgroups after a busy week away, then a week at work catching up with work stuff. Finally saw the podiatrist, 7 1/2 months after dx, and she confirmed that I’ve got "some neuropathy" in my tootsies. This was not a surprise; since getting and keeping my BGs under some reasonable control, I’ve been getting pins and needles, tingles, vaguely "mild electric shock" feelings in my toes, so I half-way expected this. Rather disappointing, since I’d hoped that dx was early enough to have missed out on this sort of thing. Oh, well, nobody ever said it would be easy. Now I’m hoping that dx happened early enough that this will reverse itself as I keep the BGs down. Then went off for 10 days of R&R, which included: A pig roast. A friend of ours holds a sort of "open house", although it’s really more an "open orchard": he owns a lovely farm with an apple orchard, and most years he holds a kind of open-air party, roasting a pig, and people bring salads and such, and there’s beer and home-made scrumpy [seriously head-ache making the next day, and lots of music and convivial company. A terrific time in a very beautiful part of England [Vale of Evesham], some lovely walks, great fun. Then the boyfriend and I headed for Abergele, in north Wales, and found a wonderful campsite, very laid-back and comfortable. [My idea of "roughing it" includes air mattresses and hot showers.] We had a lovely day out in Llandudno, a seaside resort town that is probably horrible in tourist season, but was great just before the schools let out for the summer hols. We were joined by my ex-nephew [ex-husband's nephew, who I keep threatening to adopt], who had gotten his driving licence two weeks earlier, and wanted to come up to Glasgow. So we formed a convoy of two cars and led him up the motorway. He did very well, in spite of having only driven in north Wales previously, and was only "moderately terrified" by the drive north. Then, on the Wednesday, Alan [the boyfriend] and I tied the knot, after a casual affair of 7 years standing. It was a lovely occasion, with his sister and my ex-nephew as the witnesses, and a nice meal afterwards, and more booze than was sensible. After the ceremony, we lead Huw [the nephew] out of Glasgow, and sent hinm on his way back to Wales, then headed off to Aberfeldy, where there’s a lovely nature trail through the "Birks of Aberfeldy" [of song fame, courtesy, I think, of Rabbie Burns]. Absolutely beautiful. And it probably wouldn’t have happened without the DM diagnosis, which made me re-assess an awful lot of my life [and made the bf re-assess his]. I don’t know if it will work out well or not, but I’m more hopeful about the future now than I’ve been in a long time. So, overall, the good news well outweighs the bad news. Not bad for a 52-year-old, oberweight diabetic. Hoping others here are having a reasonably good time, and holding fast to hope, Maggie

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Hi Maggie Better late than never – I wish you both many congratulations and lots of happiness in your future! I’m relieving reception at work)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m finally catching up with the newsgroups after a busy week away, then a week at work catching up with work stuff. Finally saw the podiatrist, 7 1/2 months after dx, and she confirmed that I’ve got "some neuropathy" in my tootsies. This was not a surprise; since getting and keeping my BGs under some reasonable control, I’ve been getting pins and needles, tingles, vaguely "mild electric shock" feelings in my toes, so I half-way expected this. Rather disappointing, since I’d hoped that dx was early enough to have missed out on this sort of thing. Oh, well, nobody ever said it would be easy. Now I’m hoping that dx happened early enough that this will reverse itself as I keep the BGs down. Then went off for 10 days of R&R, which included: A pig roast. A friend of ours holds a sort of "open house", although it’s really more an "open orchard": he owns a lovely farm with an apple orchard, and most years he holds a kind of open-air party, roasting a pig, and people bring salads and such, and there’s beer and home-made scrumpy [seriously head-ache making the next day, and lots of music and convivial company. A terrific time in a very beautiful part of England [Vale of Evesham], some lovely walks, great fun. Then the boyfriend and I headed for Abergele, in north Wales, and found a wonderful campsite, very laid-back and comfortable. [My idea of "roughing it" includes air mattresses and hot showers.] We had a lovely day out in Llandudno, a seaside resort town that is probably horrible in tourist season, but was great just before the schools let out for the summer hols. We were joined by my ex-nephew [ex-husband's nephew, who I keep threatening to adopt], who had gotten his driving licence two weeks earlier, and wanted to come up to Glasgow. So we formed a convoy of two cars and led him up the motorway. He did very well, in spite of having only driven in north Wales previously, and was only "moderately terrified" by the drive north. Then, on the Wednesday, Alan [the boyfriend] and I tied the knot, after a casual affair of 7 years standing. It was a lovely occasion, with his sister and my ex-nephew as the witnesses, and a nice meal afterwards, and more booze than was sensible. After the ceremony, we lead Huw [the nephew] out of Glasgow, and sent hinm on his way back to Wales, then headed off to Aberfeldy, where there’s a lovely nature trail through the "Birks of Aberfeldy" [of song fame, courtesy, I think, of Rabbie Burns]. Absolutely beautiful. And it probably wouldn’t have happened without the DM diagnosis, which made me re-assess an awful lot of my life [and made the bf re-assess his]. I don’t know if it will work out well or not, but I’m more hopeful about the future now than I’ve been in a long time. So, overall, the good news well outweighs the bad news. Not bad for a 52-year-old, oberweight diabetic. Hoping others here are having a reasonably good time, and holding fast to hope, Maggie

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Next time I see the quack I intend to ask about that. Maggie

You should also be able to get copies of all those tests; somewhere in there will be things like glucose and lipids at that time. Keep copies of all your lab reports. Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email. — Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes Maggie….. one other thing…. the guidelines for a diagnosis of diabetes have been lowered in the past 2 yrs (or close to that i believe) so….. under the old guidelines you probably weren’t diabetic…… wonder what it was under the new guidelines? sigh When those guidelines were lowered the number of dxed in my little old town doubled from 1000 to 2049 in six months!! Milo

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Horribly late I know, but congratulations. You’ve gone at things the opposite way to me.  Asked wifey-to-be to marry me about 5 days before my dx.  She didn’t know what she was letting herself in for – heh!  12 weeks to go and she hasn’t found a way out of it.  I guess if she ever wants to divorce me she might think about "defective goods" under consumer law, but tough – she’s stuck with knackered old me. VBH T2/UK/A1c 5.8/ 1000Met/Dx Oct-03

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m finally catching up with the newsgroups after a busy week away, then a week at work catching up with work stuff. Finally saw the podiatrist, 7 1/2 months after dx, and she confirmed that I’ve got "some neuropathy" in my tootsies. This was not a surprise; since getting and keeping my BGs under some reasonable control, I’ve been getting pins and needles, tingles, vaguely "mild electric shock" feelings in my toes, so I half-way expected this. Rather disappointing, since I’d hoped that dx was early enough to have missed out on this sort of thing. Oh, well, nobody ever said it would be easy. Now I’m hoping that dx happened early enough that this will reverse itself as I keep the BGs down. Then went off for 10 days of R&R, which included: A pig roast. A friend of ours holds a sort of "open house", although it’s really more an "open orchard": he owns a lovely farm with an apple orchard, and most years he holds a kind of open-air party, roasting a pig, and people bring salads and such, and there’s beer and home-made scrumpy [seriously head-ache making the next day, and lots of music and convivial company. A terrific time in a very beautiful part of England [Vale of Evesham], some lovely walks, great fun. Then the boyfriend and I headed for Abergele, in north Wales, and found a wonderful campsite, very laid-back and comfortable. [My idea of "roughing it" includes air mattresses and hot showers.] We had a lovely day out in Llandudno, a seaside resort town that is probably horrible in tourist season, but was great just before the schools let out for the summer hols. We were joined by my ex-nephew [ex-husband's nephew, who I keep threatening to adopt], who had gotten his driving licence two weeks earlier, and wanted to come up to Glasgow. So we formed a convoy of two cars and led him up the motorway. He did very well, in spite of having only driven in north Wales previously, and was only "moderately terrified" by the drive north. Then, on the Wednesday, Alan [the boyfriend] and I tied the knot, after a casual affair of 7 years standing. It was a lovely occasion, with his sister and my ex-nephew as the witnesses, and a nice meal afterwards, and more booze than was sensible. After the ceremony, we lead Huw [the nephew] out of Glasgow, and sent hinm on his way back to Wales, then headed off to Aberfeldy, where there’s a lovely nature trail through the "Birks of Aberfeldy" [of song fame, courtesy, I think, of Rabbie Burns]. Absolutely beautiful. And it probably wouldn’t have happened without the DM diagnosis, which made me re-assess an awful lot of my life [and made the bf re-assess his]. I don’t know if it will work out well or not, but I’m more hopeful about the future now than I’ve been in a long time. So, overall, the good news well outweighs the bad news. Not bad for a 52-year-old, oberweight diabetic. Hoping others here are having a reasonably good time, and holding fast to hope, Maggie

Hi Maggie It sounds like you had a wonderful time. Congratulations – to both of you. He even spells his name correctly Gives a new slant to ‘the seven year itch". And I completely understand the re-evaluation; isn’t it strange that it sometimes takes something like diagnosis to start our lives in new and better directions. Congratulations again. Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email. — Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.

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Maggie….. one other thing…. the guidelines for a diagnosis of diabetes have been lowered in the past 2 yrs (or close to that i believe) so….. under the old guidelines you probably weren’t diabetic…… wonder what it was under the new guidelines? sigh — Join us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org — /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes I’m finally catching up with the newsgroups after a busy week away, then a week at work catching up with work stuff. Finally saw the podiatrist, 7 1/2 months after dx, and she confirmed that I’ve got "some neuropathy" in my tootsies. This was not a surprise; since getting and keeping my BGs under some reasonable control, I’ve been getting pins and needles, tingles, vaguely "mild electric shock" feelings in my toes, so I half-way expected this. Rather disappointing, since I’d hoped that dx was early enough to have missed out on this sort of thing. Oh, well, nobody ever said it would be easy. Now I’m hoping that dx happened early enough that this will reverse itself as I keep the BGs down. Your dx might not have been so early as you hope if you already got neuropathy. Still, a word of warning, it sometimes appears to be getting worse before it gets better, so not to give up hope if it does seem worse. I thought it was an early dx because, about 3 1/2 or 4 years ago, when I was having real sleep problems, I got tested for diabetes, as well as a bunch of other things, before they figured out that I had sleep apnea. At that time, they told me I didn’t have diabetes [or thyroid or liver problems], and I can’t remember what-all else. Felt like a pin-cushion after all the blood tests. The diabetes dx was November ‘03. All I can figure is two possible scenarios: either the diabetes test 4 years ago showed me as what they like to call "borderline", not high enough that they considered it worth either treating me or telling me about it; or, after becoming diabetic in the meantime but before dx, at various times I ran BGs high enough and for long enough periods of time that damage started to happen. Next time I see the quack I intend to ask about that. Maggie — There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats. — Albert Schweitzer

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A pig roast. A friend of ours holds a sort of "open house", although it’s really more an "open orchard": he owns a lovely farm with an apple orchard, and most years he holds a kind of open-air party, roasting a pig, and people bring salads and such, and there’s beer and home-made scrumpy [seriously head-ache making the next day, and lots of music and convivial company. A terrific time in a very beautiful part of England [Vale of Evesham], some lovely walks, great fun. Ten miles up the road from me, you should have dropped in, as long as had brought some roast pig too

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes I’m finally catching up with the newsgroups after a busy week away, then a week at work catching up with work stuff. Finally saw the podiatrist, 7 1/2 months after dx, and she confirmed that I’ve got "some neuropathy" in my tootsies. This was not a surprise; since getting and keeping my BGs under some reasonable control, I’ve been getting pins and needles, tingles, vaguely "mild electric shock" feelings in my toes, so I half-way expected this. Rather disappointing, since I’d hoped that dx was early enough to have missed out on this sort of thing. Oh, well, nobody ever said it would be easy. Now I’m hoping that dx happened early enough that this will reverse itself as I keep the BGs down. Your dx might not have been so early as you hope if you already got neuropathy. Still, a word of warning, it sometimes appears to be getting worse before it gets better, so not to give up hope if it does seem worse.

I thought it was an early dx because, about 3 1/2 or 4 years ago, when I was having real sleep problems, I got tested for diabetes, as well as a bunch of other things, before they figured out that I had sleep apnea. At that time, they told me I didn’t have diabetes [or thyroid or liver problems], and I can’t remember what-all else. Felt like a pin-cushion after all the blood tests. The diabetes dx was November ‘03. All I can figure is two possible scenarios: either the diabetes test 4 years ago showed me as what they like to call "borderline", not high enough that they considered it worth either treating me or telling me about it; or, after becoming diabetic in the meantime but before dx, at various times I ran BGs high enough and for long enough periods of time that damage started to happen. Next time I see the quack I intend to ask about that. Maggie — There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats. — Albert Schweitzer

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A pig roast. A friend of ours holds a sort of "open house", although it’s really more an "open orchard": he owns a lovely farm with an apple orchard, and most years he holds a kind of open-air party, roasting a pig, and people bring salads and such, and there’s beer and home-made scrumpy [seriously head-ache making the next day, and lots of music and convivial company. A terrific time in a very beautiful part of England [Vale of Evesham], some lovely walks, great fun.

Ten miles up the road from me, you should have dropped in, as long as had brought some roast pig too Then, on the Wednesday, Alan [the boyfriend] and I tied the knot, after a casual affair of 7 years standing. It was a lovely occasion, with his sister and my ex-nephew as the witnesses, and a nice meal afterwards, and more booze than was sensible.

Congratulations to you both. I can’t remember last week, was the weather kind to you on the big day? Nigel T2 D&E

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Congratulations to the both of you — Patrick / Fester Type 1 Diabetic. Dx’d 1993. On 26u Lantus and whatever Novorapid my meter says i need.

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    Admission:     A 6-pack of good beer

That’s a bit harsh Jay. Where do you expect anyone to find that in the U.S.? OK I know – duck :):)  (Sorry – couldn’t resist Tony Tony Roberts PP-ASEL VFR OTT Night Cessna 172H C-GICE

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    Admission:     A 6-pack of good beer That’s a bit harsh Jay. Where do you expect anyone to find that in the U.S.? OK I know – duck :):)  (Sorry – couldn’t resist

Actually, we had a wide variety of great beers at the rec.aviation party at OSH last Wednesday! Well, truth be told, someone DID sneak some "Grain Belt" (in cans, no less!) onto the grounds — but we made those go away quickly…. — Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"

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Well, truth be told, someone DID sneak some "Grain Belt" (in cans, no less!) onto the grounds — but we made those go away quickly….

That’s what I was going to bring if I had made it there. Actually Schell’s in bottles…

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Well, truth be told, someone DID sneak some "Grain Belt" (in cans, no less!) onto the grounds — but we made those go away quickly…. That’s what I was going to bring if I had made it there. Actually Schell’s in bottles…

Hey — someone brought Schell’s, too.  But that stuff’s not bad at all, compared to Grain Belt. At least no one brought anything with "Lite" in the name… — Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"

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How does it rate WRT Lonestar? Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

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Okay kids — here is the final plan for our annual Oshkosh shin-dig:     Day:              Wednesday     Time:             Right after the airshow     Where:           Jay & Mary’s campsite     Admission:     A 6-pack of good beer — OR you buy a round at Friar Tuck’s later! Here are some pictures from last year’s party: http://makeashorterlink.com/?I28A322E8 http://makeashorterlink.com/?S56C163E5 As you can see, a good time is to be had…  ;-) Since no one knows where we’re going to be parked, here’s the procedure for finding this party! 1. Go to the EAA North 40 campground admission booth.  (It’s on the south side of RWY 09/27, not far from the Warbirds.) 2. Give them either our name or our "N" number — N56993. 3. They will vector you right into our site, by row and site number! It’s really easy, and with any luck, we won’t be parked out in Timbuktu… Paul "Montblack" is donating a bunch of food, and Jim C is planning to bring a rolling grill to the site — EAA permitting!  (We’ve got smaller grills promised, just in case!)   If worse comes to worse, and we can’t cook — we’ll all head over to Friar Tuck’s like we did last year. Come rub shoulders with fellow newsgroupies, and join in the annual celebration we all call "Oshkosh"…    There’s nothing else like it, anywhere in the world. — Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"

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